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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:08 am 
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For a some time I have thought about buying a Vixen 2.1x42 binocular and my interest was again aroused by the article in September's "Astronomy Now" by Ninian Boyle. Essentially these are of a modern Galilean opera-glass design and without the various drawbacks of most old-style glasses which I detailed the Popular Astronomy article "Astronomy with an opera glass" way back in the spring of 2003. (Was that really 13 years ago!). The Vixen "glass" can be adjusted for pupil-separation, and has independent eye-focus too. Has anyone here used these? regards maf


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:07 am 
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Hi Mike,I haven't used them but like you, I am intrigued by them. I am sure Celestron market the same thing under their brand. However what shocks me is the price. I know we are used to cheap, serviceable bins from the Chinese empire, but I am taken aback to find these opera-type glasses are literally 10 times more expensive than I expected. They could have heard me say "How much?" in Kunming. Why so much?
Baffled Bob


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:15 am 
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Soz, they are all Vixens as I now recall but marketed also by Celestron suppliers. Bob


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:26 pm 
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Similar to Russian?, copied by China? 2.3x opera glass.
They have complex ?triplet objectives.
Maybe special glass?

They are expensive, but I think you need dark skies.

You need to get close without glasses.

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David

bRW 2.3x40 Russian 28 deg was the original

United Optics China made a copy.
China copies everything ruthlessly, they don't respect copyright.
Neither do Russians.

AOK Swiss 2.3x also. I don't know if this is original or a copy.

Vixen is 2.1x42 Miyauchi made in Saitama Japan.
Miyauchi also made a 5x32 bin with 13.2 deg field.

4x21 Bushnell (3.5x21) 18.5 deg field. fixed focus. Also 4x30 later version.

4x22 Dowling and Rowe true 4x independent eyepiece focus 16.5 deg field (Also there is a fixed focus version, not so good).


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:23 am 
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These binoculars cost £229.00 from Widescreen Centre. In comparison, on the next page of the magazine there is another equipment review, for Vixen HR Series eyepieces. Three are available...they cost £262.00 each! Apart from my PST, I do not think I have ever spent that much on any complete telescope! regards maf


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:22 am 
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I noticed a pair of Maginon 8x40s at my local ALDI reduced from £19.99 to £14.99. I''ll think it over for another week before committing to such extravagance. They've been there for weeks. Bob


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:39 am 
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The article I mentioned gave the price as £229.00 however the Widescreen page says £259.00...that's the end of that then! regards maf


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:02 pm 
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Well, I bought the ALDI Maginons for £14.99, so I guess that brings us from the sublime Vixens to the ridiculous Kunmingers. Bob :D


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I went into Brighton today and spent just £30 on a used Zenitsa 8-24x40 (made in USSR) "spyglass" telescope. the rubber eye-shield is missing and the edge of the field stop has a small notch in it - maybe a previous owner let the Sun creep into the fov?- but optically is it very good indeed. I have now expunged any thoughts about the...what was it! regards maf


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:37 pm 
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8-24x40 is a good scope.

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