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 Post subject: new gear
PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:37 pm 
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Just bought a skywatcher Sky Tee on mount and Sky-Watcher EVOSTAR-120ED DS-PRO (OTA) ED APO Refractor Telescope, I like Alt Az mounts.

Should come next week.

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:53 pm 
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You should get superb results with the 'scope, but you might find that the dovetail bar supplied with it is too short at six-inches. A twelve-inch bar would be better.
There are reviews of this 'scope on the Internet that you might find helpful.

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:40 pm 
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Very nice 'scope. I don't know much about the SkyTee mounting but it also gets good write-ups,

regards from a confirmed EQ man,

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:45 pm 
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As you said Brian, the SKYTEE-2 has had good reviews. However, there are/have been problems with the dovetail saddles on this mounting, with instances of expensive 'scopes slipping out of them and crashing to ground with disasterous results. It might be that SKYWATCHER has since remedied the problem.
Some users have removed the problem with their own modification:
https://stargazerslounge.com/topic/9715 ... od/?page=2 .

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:36 pm 
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anything can be a problem if you don't use it right, too many people are quick to blame the equipment and not themselves.

It was ME and Patrick Moore a personal friend that did the actual reviews of the skywatcher range for OVL that you see used to this day on sales sites.

I have never had a problem with a mount, and if there ever was a problem that is why we have insurance cover, don't we yes are you insured :)

Never tighten and assume always re check :)

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:19 pm 
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I have never personally dropped a scope in 60 years.

I dropped maybe 4 eyepieces, a 10x70 Ross monocular on ice covered granite and my Minolta SRT 101, from 16ft onto concrete, photographing comet Kohoutek? I think.
The Minolta was covered by insurance, but was badly repaired by the insurer's useless repairer. It took a year. I forced them to send it to Minolta. I had long ago bought a replacement.
Insurance companies will try everything not to pay out, unless one uses a very specialised insurer.
In big cases they will spend a fortune on legal and 'expert' witnesses not to pay out.

I lost or had stolen an 11x drawtube scope when I was eleven. About 5 years ago I found an exact replacement (the same one?).

The PST can come off the photo tripod. It sometimes unscrews but not by much as I check it is secure.
This morning there was a largish prominence through cloud about the two o'clock position.

Several binocular parcels have been used as footballs or dropped by carriers.
The 5 1/8 inch Jaeger O.G. parcel from the U.S. was opened by U.K. customs and left completely loose. I am surprised it survived the Post Office. They seem to have improved.

It still amazes me how badly people pack optics.
The 25x70 Celestron just rattled around completely unwrapped in a cardboard box. I suppose if staff get paid little that is what happens.

The new scope sounds impressive.

Mostly Altaz Man.

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:38 am 
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This is to add to my Celestron Edge HD Evolution, so now I have that and an easy to setup refractor, happy retirement to me

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:18 pm 
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I hope you enjoy using the new refractor.
With the Moon now at a high altitude, and Jupiter rising earlier. You should have plenty to see.

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:36 pm 
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Gave up, the scope was not available till FEBRUARY got this instead

120mm Esprit on Sky Tee 2


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 Post subject: Re: new gear
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esprit
ɛˈspriː,French ɛspʀi/Submit
noun
the quality of being lively, vivacious

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:34 pm 
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Very nice indeed. That is the ED triplet? Very,very nice :D

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
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Makes my 8" Celestron Edge HD look small, happy retirement, last gear I'll ever get


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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:52 pm 
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I would be interested to know what is the highest magnification you can use with the 120mm Esprit, terrestrially, during daylight in good conditions with steady temperatures and best seeing conditions. Mornings and late afternoons often the best time, and spring or autumn.
Maybe too cold at the moment.

Say, at a distance of 1 mile.
Best over grass, not concrete or asphalt, and not over heated houses.
Over water sometimes good.

Could the scope fall over, as mounted off centre?
Does it need another counterweight on the other side mounting?

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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:50 am 
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David Frydman wrote:
I have never personally dropped a scope in 60 years.

I dropped maybe 4 eyepieces, a 10x70 Ross monocular on ice covered granite and my Minolta SRT 101, from 16ft onto concrete, photographing comet Kohoutek? I think.
The Minolta was covered by insurance, but was badly repaired by the insurer's useless repairer. It took a year. I forced them to send it to Minolta. I had long ago bought a replacement.
Insurance companies will try everything not to pay out, unless one uses a very specialised insurer.
In big cases they will spend a fortune on legal and 'expert' witnesses not to pay out.

I lost or had stolen an 11x drawtube scope when I was eleven. About 5 years ago I found an exact replacement (the same one?).

The PST can come off the photo tripod. It sometimes unscrews but not by much as I check it is secure.
This morning there was a largish prominence through cloud about the two o'clock position.

Several binocular parcels have been used as footballs or dropped by carriers.
The 5 1/8 inch Jaeger O.G. parcel from the U.S. was opened by U.K. customs and left completely loose. I am surprised it survived the Post Office. They seem to have improved.

It still amazes me how badly people pack optics.
The 25x70 Celestron just rattled around completely unwrapped in a cardboard box. I suppose if staff get paid little that is what happens.

The new scope sounds impressive.

Mostly Altaz Man.

Regards,
David


It took a hammer and chisel and crain to get the Skywatcher 120 esprit out, everything I buy needs two to unpack them, just as well they are superbly packed


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 Post subject: Re: new gear
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:29 am 
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The 'scope needs a dew-shield extension.

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